Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (2024)

Last Updated on July 16, 2021 at 8:10 am

I get this kind of question a lot: There is a 30-40% overlap in the portfolios of my mutual funds. Is this okay, or should I change my funds? How much of a portfolio overlap is OK, and how much is not? A discussion.

The reasoning presented here is similar to the one discussed before:Can I invest 50% in index funds and 50% in active funds? The answer depends a lot on the context; on the intention behind the constructed portfolio.

Suppose I start investing in the UTI Nifty Index Fund Direct Plan in two separate folios. There is obviously a 100% overlap of stocks between the two folios. Is there anything wrong with doing this?

Maybe we could assign one folio to one goal and another to another. What if we use both the folios for the same goal? Is there anything wrong with this? It is unnecessary for sure, but there is nothing terribly wrong with it. Both folios have the same expense ratio and the same returns.

Join over 32,000 readers and get free money management solutions delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to get posts via email!

🔥 🔥

In this case, we do not worry about the percentage overlap but question the decision to open a second folio if it will be used for the same goal. We should adopt the same approach to evaluating the portfolio overlap among our mutual funds.

If our portfolio has two funds, say A and B, the primary question to ask is, why did we choose these funds? Suppose these two funds are from the same category? Many investors would rush to point out that it is bad to buy two funds from the category. Age has taught me that it depends.

If a person is going to start a SIP of Rs. 1000 in two large cap funds is this a good idea or a bad one from the perspective of portfolio overlap (let us leave out active vs passive here, please)?

If the person is new to mutual funds and scared to commit all his investments with one fund house and therefore chooses two funds, it is reasonable. The problem is we have people who start a SIP of Rs. 1000 in a 5/6 mutual fund from day one, and all of them are either from the same category or from overlapping categories (e.g. large cap and large+midcap).

Is there anything wrong with this? That many funds from day one for that investment seem unnecessary. The portfolio would soon be tracking the index at a higher management fee. Other than this and the possibility of increasing clutter in the portfolio (that 5 funds could soon become 45 funds), there is nothing wrong with it!

We cannot be dismissive of a portfolio of several funds without appreciating context though. Suppose a person holds six large cap funds, it may seem like a bad idea at first sight but that person could be 50+ with each fund value above one crore. The person may not be comfortable with putting much money in the same fund house. And at six crores, “tracking the index at a higher management fee” is a far better thing to do than investing part of it in a PMS.

So two things are important to determine if a “large overlap” in stocks between funds is acceptable or not: reasonable context and clear intent. We have looked at the reasonable context above.

For clear intent suppose the funds’ A and B are a large cap and mid cap fund respectively. One would expect the overlap to be minimal as the purpose of each fund is different and this is an example of a well-diversified portfolio.

However, this does not mean the overlap is always minimal. A can invest in about 15% of mid caps and B can inevst in about 30% of large cap stocks. So the overlap could be about 40%. This however will not be permanent. There is nothing wrong if this happens as it is beyond the control of the investor. The intent behind the portfolio construction is correct and that is all that anyone can do.

It is only rarely one would have a diversified portfolio with “zero-overlap”. For example, if they inevst in the NIfty and Nifty Next 50 index funds.

If the portfolio has funds with distinct investment mandates, investors need not worry too much about portfolio overlap. Trouble arises when they start with a large cap fund, add a large and mid cap fund, then a flexicap fund, then a multicap fund, then an aggressive hybrid fund.

Obviously, the overlap would be high in this case, but the root cause of the problem is a muddled approach. Many investors (including yours truly) investment portfolio is a collection of mistakes rather than what it should be – a collection of diversified entities.

If investors build a portfolio with a clear intent and reasonable context, they do not have to worry about portfolio overlap. Some examples of this are:

  • NIfty or Sensex
  • Nifty + Nifty Next 50
  • Nifty 100 (other index funds are ETFs have huge tracking errors)
  • large cap + mid cap funds
  • flexi-cap fund
  • large and midcap fund
  • multicap fund
  • aggressive hybrid fund

For small portfolios, one of each is enough. For larger portfolios, one or more funds of the same type can be added (reasonable context).

In summary, we recommend investors first focus on building a portfolio with distinctly different entities – that is funds with different investment mandates. If this is in place, they can ignore the portfolio overlap between their funds as it is not in their hands. Of course, using index funds can achieve all this and more in the easiest way possible. Active funds or passive funds, a strong conviction in our choices and the discipline to stay the course is essential.

Do share this article with your friends using the buttons below.

🔥Enjoy massive discounts on our courses, robo-advisory tool and exclusive investor circle! 🔥& join our community of 5000+ users!

Use our Robo-advisory Tool for a start-to-finish financial plan! More than 1,000 investors and advisors use this!

New Tool!=> Track your mutual funds and stock investments with this Google Sheet!

Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (1)
Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (2)
Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (3)

Podcast: Let's Get RICH With PATTU! Every single Indian CAN grow their wealth!

Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (4)

You can watch podcast episodes on the OfSpin Media Friends YouTube Channel.

Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (5)
  • Do you have a comment about the above article? Reach out to us on Twitter: @freefincal or @pattufreefincal
  • Have a question? Subscribe to our newsletter with the form below.
  • Hit 'reply' to any email from us! We do not offer personalized investment advice. We can write a detailed article without mentioning your name if you have a generic question.

Join over 32,000 readers and get free money management solutions delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to get posts via email!

Explore the site! Search among our 2000+ articles for information and insight!

About The Author

Dr. M. Pattabiraman(PhD) is the founder, managing editor and primary author of freefincal. He is an associate professor at the Indian Institute of Technology, Madras. He has over ten years of experience publishing news analysis, research and financial product development. Connect with him via Twitter, Linkedin, or YouTube. Pattabiraman has co-authored three print books: (1) You can be rich too with goal-based investing (CNBC TV18) for DIY investors. (2) Gamechanger for young earners. (3) Chinchu Gets a Superpower! for kids. He has also written seven other free e-books on various money management topics. He is a patron and co-founder of “Fee-only India,” an organisation promoting unbiased, commission-free investment advice.

Our flagship course! Learn to manage your portfolio like a pro to achieve your goals regardless of market conditions! More than 3,000 investors and advisors are part of our exclusive community! Get clarity on how to plan for your goals and achieve the necessary corpus no matter what the market condition is!! Watch the first lecture for free! One-time payment! No recurring fees! Life-long access to videos! Reduce fear, uncertainty and doubt while investing! Learn how to plan for your goals before and after retirement with confidence.

Our new course! Increase your income by getting people to pay for your skills! More than 700 salaried employees, entrepreneurs and financial advisors are part of our exclusive community! Learn how to get people to pay for your skills! Whether you are a professional or small business owner who wants more clients via online visibility or a salaried person wanting a side income or passive income, we will show you how to achieve this by showcasing your skills and building a community that trusts you and pays you! (watch 1st lecture for free). One-time payment! No recurring fees! Life-long access to videos!

Our new book for kids: “Chinchu gets a superpower!” is now available!

Most investor problems can be traced to a lack of informed decision-making. Wehave all made bad decisions and money mistakes when we started earning and spent years undoing these mistakes. Why should our children go through the same pain? What is this book about?As parents, what would it be if we had to groom one ability in our children that is key not only to money management and investing but to any aspect of life? My answer: Sound Decision Making. So in this book, we meet Chinchu, who is about to turn 10. What he wants for his birthday and how his parents plan for it and teach him several key ideas of decision-making and money management is the narrative. What readers say!

Must-read book even for adults! This is something that every parent should teach their kids right from their young age. The importance of money management and decision making based on their wants and needs. Very nicely written in simple terms. - Arun.

Buy the book: Chinchu gets a superpower for your child!

How to profit from content writing: Our new ebook is for those interested in getting side income via content writing. It is available at a 50% discount for Rs. 500 only!

Want to check if the market is overvalued or undervalued? Use our market valuation tool (it will work with any index!), or get the Tactical Buy/Sell timing tool!

We publish monthly mutual fund screeners and momentum, low-volatility stock screeners.

About freefincal & it's content policy. Freefincal is a News Media Organization dedicated to providing original analysis, reports, reviews and insights on mutual funds, stocks, investing, retirement and personal finance developments. We do so without conflict of interest and bias. Follow us on Google News. Freefincal serves more than three million readers a year (5 million page views) with articles based only on factual information and detailed analysis by its authors. All statements made will be verified with credible and knowledgeable sources before publication. Freefincal does not publish paid articles, promotions, PR, satire or opinions without data. All opinions will be inferences backed by verifiable, reproducible evidence/data. Contact information: letters {at} freefincal {dot} com (sponsored posts or paid collaborations will not be entertained)

Connect with us on social media

Our publications

You Can Be Rich Too with Goal-Based Investing

Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (9)Published by CNBC TV18, this book is meant to help you ask the right questions and seek the correct answers, and since it comes with nine online calculators, you can also create custom solutions for your lifestyle! Get it now.

Gamechanger: Forget Startups, Join Corporate & Still Live the Rich Life You Want Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (10)This book is meant for young earners to get their basics right from day one! It will also help you travel to exotic places at a low cost! Get it or gift it to a young earner.

Your Ultimate Guide to Travel

Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (11) This is an in-depth dive analysis into vacation planning, finding cheap flights, budget accommodation, what to do when travelling, and how travelling slowly is better financially and psychologically, with links to the web pages and hand-holding at every step. Get the pdf for Rs 300 (instant download)

Is it ok if 40% of stocks among my mutual funds are the same? (2024)

FAQs

How much percentage of mutual fund overlap is acceptable? ›

While there's no fixed rule, a lower overlap is better for diversification. Aim to keep it below 33% for a balanced portfolio. To reduce overlap: Diversify across fund categories systematically: Investing in funds from different categories won't guarantee low overlap unless chosen strategically.

What is the ideal number of stocks in a portfolio? ›

Assuming you do go down the road of picking individual stocks, you'll also want to make sure you hold enough of them so as not to concentrate too much of your wealth in any one company or industry. Usually this means holding somewhere between 20 and 30 stocks unless your portfolio is very small.

How much of my portfolio should be in stocks? ›

The common rule of asset allocation by age is that you should hold a percentage of stocks that is equal to 100 minus your age. So if you're 40, you should hold 60% of your portfolio in stocks. Since life expectancy is growing, changing that rule to 110 minus your age or 120 minus your age may be more appropriate.

What percentage of my money should I invest in mutual funds? ›

Some experts recommend at least 15% of your income. Setting clear investment goals can help you determine if you're investing the right amount. If you're new to investing, you might be asking yourself how much you should invest, or if you even have enough money to invest.

What is the 80 20 rule in mutual funds? ›

In investing, the 80-20 rule generally holds that 20% of the holdings in a portfolio are responsible for 80% of the portfolio's growth. On the flip side, 20% of a portfolio's holdings could be responsible for 80% of its losses.

What is the 5 percent rule in mutual funds? ›

In the context of investing, it may also refer to the practice of not allocating more than 5% of a portfolio to any single security—in other words, of not letting any one mutual fund, company stock, or even industrial sector to accumulate to comprise more than 5% of the investor's overall holdings.

Is 40 stocks too many? ›

40 individual stocks is far too many for a small investor based on Buffett's quotes and teachings.

How much money do I need to invest to make $1000 a month? ›

Reinvest Your Payments

The truth is that most investors won't have the money to generate $1,000 per month in dividends; not at first, anyway. Even if you find a market-beating series of investments that average 3% annual yield, you would still need $400,000 in up-front capital to hit your targets. And that's okay.

How much of your portfolio should be in risky stocks? ›

Most sources cite a low-risk portfolio as being made up of 15-40% equities. Medium risk ranges from 40-60%. High risk is generally from 70% upwards. In all cases, the remainder of the portfolio is made up of lower-risk asset classes such as bonds, money market funds, property funds and cash.

Should a 70 year old be in the stock market? ›

If you're 70, you'd look at sticking to 40% stocks. Of course, there's wiggle room with this formula, and it's really just a way to get started. And for many older investors, a 50-50 split of stocks and bonds is what's preferred throughout retirement, and that's fine, too.

At what age should you get out of the stock market? ›

Key Takeaways:

The 100-minus-your-age long-term savings rule is designed to guard against investment risk in retirement. If you're 60, you should only have 40% of your retirement portfolio in stocks, with the rest in bonds, money market accounts and cash.

What is the best asset allocation for a 55 year old? ›

As you reach your 50s, consider allocating 60% of your portfolio to stocks and 40% to bonds. Adjust those numbers according to your risk tolerance. If risk makes you nervous, decrease the stock percentage and increase the bond percentage.

How many stocks are in the average mutual fund? ›

In the small cap mutual funds category majority of the funds have between 50-75 Stocks in their portfolio. But here, too, funds that had up to 50 stocks have done the best. The funds that had up to 50 stocks in their portfolio had an average rolling return of 26.14%, and that of funds with 50-75 stocks was 22.22%.

What is a bad expense ratio for a mutual fund? ›

A reasonable expense ratio for an actively managed portfolio is about 0.5% to 0.75%, while an expense ratio greater than 1.5% is typically considered high these days. For passive funds, the average expense ratio is about 0.12%.

What is the 3 5 10 rule for mutual funds? ›

Specifically, a fund is prohibited from: acquiring more than 3% of a registered investment company's shares (the “3% Limit”); investing more than 5% of its assets in a single registered investment company (the “5% Limit”); or. investing more than 10% of its assets in registered investment companies (the “10% Limit”).

What is the 75 5 10 rule for mutual funds? ›

Diversified management investment companies have assets that fall within the 75-5-10 rule. A 75-5-10 diversified management investment company will have 75% of its assets in other issuers and cash, no more than 5% of assets in any one company, and no more than 10% ownership of any company's outstanding voting stock.

What is the 25% diversification rule for mutual funds? ›

Let's start with the 25:1 and 50:5 rule, a sort of “bright line test” with two simple guidelines: One issuer cannot contribute more than 25% of the portfolio's fair market value. Five or fewer issuers cannot contribute more than 50% of its fair market value.

What is the 15 15 rule of mutual funds? ›

What is the 15x15x15 rule in mutual funds? The mutual fund 15x15x15 rule simply put means invest INR 15000 every month for 15 years in a stock that can offer an interest rate of 15% on an annual basis, then your investment will amount to INR 1,00,26,601/- after 15 years.

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Lidia Grady

Last Updated:

Views: 5708

Rating: 4.4 / 5 (65 voted)

Reviews: 88% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Lidia Grady

Birthday: 1992-01-22

Address: Suite 493 356 Dale Fall, New Wanda, RI 52485

Phone: +29914464387516

Job: Customer Engineer

Hobby: Cryptography, Writing, Dowsing, Stand-up comedy, Calligraphy, Web surfing, Ghost hunting

Introduction: My name is Lidia Grady, I am a thankful, fine, glamorous, lucky, lively, pleasant, shiny person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.