[General Gameplay] BDO is bad for casuals | Black Desert NA/EU (2024)

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 11:55 (UTC)

# 51

U think u need crones and high fs to make progress XD? Read my previous post mate. "U know nothing John Snow, u know nothing"...

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 13:25 (UTC)

# 52

No offense but you other post is meaningless. Your claiming you can make 51B in 7 days but aren't telling how that possible. Ya no offense but gotta call BS on that claim, if people could even make 1/4 that amount per week than everyone would be sitting in full PEN weapons an armor in a month an full PEN everything in a year. So ya only way that possible is being RNG carried but we can't all sh*t out PENs like a factory if we could everyone be in full PEN by now.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 13:41 (UTC)

# 53

Seasonal gear isn't a fair comparison to actual gear at all. An even if you've been playing for 2 years you'd still be far behind the whales. Some of these whales have been sitting in full PEN for 2 years now back when others were struggling with getting tri an tet gear. Only reason why people are catching up now is because those whale have physically nothing else to upgrade, sense this game has never had a new BIS gear set added to the game ever. So once full fallen god comes out the players like me who have been working on catching up to the whales for 2 years is going to once again go completely out of our reach while we struggle with our duo fallen god an the whales cron themselves to full PEN fallen god in a week.

An example to what I mean is Choose a known whale hit his last PEN accessory about 13 months ago. But the average Joe non whales didn't start hitting their first PEN until last summer about 6-8 months ago. An you can see the results now average Joe who have been playing for years are still struggling to get full PEN weapons and armor while whale are sitting at tet fallen god armor.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 13:34 (UTC)

# 54

And you my friend stop White - Knighting in the forums.

Instead of lurking in the forums 24/7 (you did it in the old forums and now you doing it here too), maybe just for one time consider that people are right?

Admit it or not BDO "is" and always will be a p2w game.-

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 13:43 (UTC)

# 55

Hem... His message about the high number of crons we currently have is true, though. So no, the player he was answering to was absolutely not right. At all.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 13:45 (UTC)

# 56

Many people can't see ouside of the 'win' condition of having to have a gazillion silver and PEN boss everything.

If you fall into that trap then of course BDO is 'bad for casuals' because you are no longer playing as a casual, you are trying to play as a hardcore no-lifer and have more silver and items than everyone else, or at least you are trying to have as much as the no-lifers have.

The hardcore approach to the game was never the only way to play it. There is always a casual playstyle and a hardcore playstyle. The hardcore version of any game is never intended to be casual friendly. All games have tiers.

Casuals are happy with far less, they got a nice fish, their horse gained a new level, they cooked a tasty meal, their item sold on the Marketplace for 5 million. There are loads of things you can do in BDO. You don't have to grind monsters. You don't have to have boss gear.

The first mistake a casual makes is wanting all the things the other people have, if those things aren't gained from casual play. That doesn't mean either a) you can't play BDO as a casual player or that b) BDO is bad for casual players.

You kinda need to make up your mind whether you are actually a casual or not, and play accordingly, and more importantly, lower your expectations accordingly.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 14:19 (UTC)

# 57

The problem here is no new content is aimed at people not in full PEN. An PVP impossible without full PEN. You can't be suggesting that it physically impossible to be a casual an also not want to PVP can you? An what you saying that casual may as well as give up on PVE combat content because they'll never reach the GS needed for new content? There a lot of flaws with you argument that suggest casual basically shouldn't even try to play the game how they want an should just play it how you think it should be played.

Cause I'll say right now I'm not a hardcore player but I sure hell won't play this game if I couldn't PVP or clear the highest tier PVE content.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 14:28 (UTC)

# 58

1: I am not familiar with the new forums so i quoted his whole post.

2: I wanted to reply only to his last sentence.

3: Speaking of crons they really want people to spent real $ to buy outfits and melt them for cron stones.

Why you think that 99% of times, they only make good discounts on the exact same outfits (Succession / Awakening / Classic)?

Because a whale don't give a F how an outfit look like, he just buys them for melting purposes.

They do not discount variety of skins, because they want to take everyones money (both from casual and hardcore whales).

The casual players cannot buy the skins they like from the marketplace (because whales only buy the discounted Succession / Awakening / Classic boxes), so they spent real $ to buy the skin they like from the cash shop.

And the whales spent real $ for melting purposes.

4: Free crons is just an illusion to attract new players and make the unexperienced players happy.

If BDO was not a p2w game, costume melting and Artisans wouldn't exist in the first place.

Anyone who says otherwise he propably suffer from Stockholm syndrome -.-

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 15:07 (UTC)

# 59

It not about being right or wrong with Smiley. It about him finding an excuse he can to create drama, derail threads he doesn't like, and slander an sh*t post anyone he doesn't like. You know it I know it the whole forum community knows it. Why you choose to support his toxic actions time and time again though is beyond me though. What are you two friends or something? Got use the tribalism mentality to help your friend you know is in the wrong?

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Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 15:20 (UTC)

# 60

Casuals can't play the game however they want, because they are casuals. Otherwise, what is the difference, what is a 'casual' and what does it even mean if it's no different from a hardcore no lifer?

Casuals have to play the game casual. Not how they want. Want is irrelevant.

You're not accepting the concept of a casual player playing casual content. You're wanting to be a casual player that also gets what the non-casual players get. It doesn't work like that. It doesn't matter how much you want to be a minimum wage shop worker who owns a Ferrari, it's not going to happen. You've got to be the guy with the good job who earns the big bucks. You live casual, you get casual rewards.

Why should a casual be able to clear the highest tier PvE content? That would make a mockery of tiers.

Again it doesn't work like that. I've played just about every MMO going and casuals don't get to clear the highest tier PvE content, because 'highest tier' means something, and it doesn't fit well with casual gameplay, nor it is supposed to. It's intended not to be for casuals. If you want that, you have to step your game up.

It doesn't matter what you *want* as a casual, it's not the trophy generation awards for all, it's BDO. You get casual rewards and access to casual content if you're casual. That's only fair. Otherwise, like I said, what's the difference and what even is 'casual'?

It sounds like you just want all the best thing things without doing the corresponding amount of hard work. That's something casual gamers simply have to accept they can't have.

You can't be a 'I want it all' casual. That's just a form of entitlement.